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Witness: NY crash that left 20 dead was 'like an explosion'
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Leroy N. Soetoro
2018-10-09 19:55:03 UTC
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multiple-deaths-143025082.html

SCHOHARIE, N.Y. (AP) — A relaxed weekend afternoon turned into chaos at an
upstate New York spot popular with tourists taking in the fall foliage
when a crash involving a limousine left 20 people dead, officials said
Sunday.

A person with knowledge of the investigation told The Associated Press
that 18 of the victims in Saturday afternoon's crash at the Apple Barrel
Country Store were in the limo and two were bystanders. The person was not
authorized to discuss the preliminary information publicly and spoke
Sunday on the condition of anonymity.

Local officials told the Times Union of Albany that a limo speeding down a
hill hit bystanders at the store in Schoharie, about 170 miles (270
kilometers) north of New York City.

The crash "sounded like an explosion," said Linda Riley, of nearby
Schenectady, who was on a shopping trip with her sisters and had been in
their parked car at the time at the store, which sits near a T-junction of
two New York state highways.

When she got out of her vehicle, she saw a body on the ground and broken
tree branches everywhere, she said. People started screaming.

State police confirmed the death toll and said the crash involved two
vehicles.

Customers in the parking lot were killed when they were hit by the limo
coming down a hill on state Route 30 at "probably over 60 mph," the store
manager, Jessica Kirby, told The New York Times .

In a Facebook post on Saturday, the store thanked emergency responders for
their actions. The store posted Sunday that it was open "and could use
your hugs."

Authorities didn't release names of victims or other specifics, but state
police set up a hotline for family members. The National Transportation
Safety Board is investigating.

An afternoon news conference is planned.

There was no information Sunday on the limousine or its integrity. But
safety issues on such vehicles have arisen before, most notably after a
wreck on Long Island in July 2015 in which four women on a winery tour
were killed.

They were in a Lincoln Town Car that had been cut apart and rebuilt in a
stretch configuration to accommodate more passengers. The limousine was
trying to make a U-turn and was struck by a pickup.

A grand jury found that vehicles converted into stretch limousines often
don't have safety measures including side-impact air bags, reinforced
rollover protection bars and accessible emergency exits. That grand jury
called on New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo to assemble a task force on limousine
safety.

Limousines built in factories are already required to meet stringent
safety regulations, but when cars are converted into limos, safety
features are sometimes removed, leading to gaps in safety protocols, the
grand jury wrote.

On Sunday, Cuomo released a statement saying, "My heart breaks for the 20
people who lost their lives in this horrific accident on Saturday in
Schoharie. I commend the first responders who arrived on the scene and
worked through the night to help. State police are working with federal
and local authorities to investigate the crash, and I have directed state
agencies to provide every resource necessary to aid in this investigation
and determine what led to this tragedy."
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Byker
2018-10-09 23:24:48 UTC
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SCHOHARIE, N.Y. (AP) — A relaxed weekend afternoon turned into chaos at an
upstate New York spot popular with tourists taking in the fall foliage
when a crash involving a limousine left 20 people dead, officials said
Sunday.
A person with knowledge of the investigation told The Associated Press hat
18 of the victims in Saturday afternoon's crash at the Apple Barrel
Country Store were in the limo and two were bystanders.
It's interesting that NO ONE in the limo survived, yet none were thrown out
of the car. Even if they all weren't wearing seat belts, you'd think that
SOMEONE would have survived:

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