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Red light fail: Cleveland sued for millions after voters reject camera tickets
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Leroy N. Soetoro
2015-09-14 06:43:28 UTC
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voters-force-city-to-drop-red-light-camera/?intcmp=trending

The termination of red light cameras in one major U.S. city has the
company behind them seeing red.

Xerox is suing the city of Cleveland for ending its three-year contract to
use the traffic cameras -- claiming the company is owed money because the
city backed out early, violating the terms of the agreement.

"The city selected Xerox as its automated enforcement vendor in a
competitive bid process that required Xerox to incur millions of dollars
of upfront expense to implement the city’s automated enforcement program,"
Xerox said in a statement to FoxNews.com Thursday.

"The resulting contract between the city and Xerox requires the city to
pay cancellation fees in the event of an early termination," the company
said. "The city has refused to meet its clear contract obligations and has
declined to negotiate despite substantial good faith efforts by Xerox over
many months to reach a solution without litigation.

"Unfortunately, this left Xerox with no reasonable choice but to file this
lawsuit," the company added.

The red light cameras and speed cameras were at first favored by city
officials -- bringing in $9 million in revenue -- but residents later
voted by a 78 percent margin to ban the use of them in 2014.

The lawsuit, which was filed in late August, does not specify how much
money the company is seeking. The complaint claims the city had 29 months
left to go in the contract and also notes the city has a "surplus" of more
than $9 million from traffic camera revenue, according to Cleveland.com.

Xerox won its contract with the city in June 2013. The contract was set to
expire on June 1, 2017.

Dan Williians, a spokesman for Cleveland mayor Frank Jackson, told
FoxNews.com Thursday the city cannot comment on matters involving pending
litigation.

Last month, however, the city provided to Cleveland.com a copy of an
amendment to the Xerox contract -- penned in August 2013 -- that says the
contract would be terminated should a state or federal law be enacted to
bar the use of cameras, according to the website.

Red light cameras have been long been controversial in cities across the
U.S. Advocates of the system claim it makes the roads safer because
drivers are more conscious of running red lights, while critics say the
cameras are simply money-making machines for towns and cities and often
unreliable.

The case is assigned to U.S. District Judge Dan Polster and Cleveland
officials must respond to the suit by Oct. 26, the newspaper.com reported.
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Beam Me Up Scotty
2015-09-14 15:18:44 UTC
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Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/10/cleveland-sued-for-millions-after-
voters-force-city-to-drop-red-light-camera/?intcmp=trending
The termination of red light cameras in one major U.S. city has the
company behind them seeing red.
Xerox is suing the city of Cleveland for ending its three-year contract to
use the traffic cameras -- claiming the company is owed money because the
city backed out early, violating the terms of the agreement.
BIG BROTHER was watching and they found a way to force citizens to pay
for it, they give you a ticket so you pay for their citywide
surveillance system to watch your movements in a free country.

Maybe they'll use cheaper drones to target specific surveillance.

It's cheaper and more discrete. They can still track your movements.
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Rudy Canoza
2015-09-14 16:08:59 UTC
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Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/10/cleveland-sued-for-millions-after-
voters-force-city-to-drop-red-light-camera/?intcmp=trending
The termination of red light cameras in one major U.S. city has the
company behind them seeing red.
Xerox is suing the city of Cleveland for ending its three-year contract to
use the traffic cameras -- claiming the company is owed money because the
city backed out early, violating the terms of the agreement.
BIG BROTHER was watching and they found a way to force citizens to pay
for it, they give you a ticket so you pay for their citywide
surveillance system to watch your movements in a free country.
As always, you get everything wrong.

Red light cameras are not part of a surveillance system. They are
activated by people like you violating the law and running red lights.
They do not take a picture of everyone going through the intersection.

Living in a free country does not mean you're free to break the law and
run red lights.
NotMe
2015-09-15 17:08:49 UTC
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"Rudy Canoza"
Post by Rudy Canoza
Red light cameras are not part of a surveillance system. They are
activated by people like you violating the law and running red lights.
They do not take a picture of everyone going through the intersection.
And you know this how?
Harry K
2015-09-18 21:42:58 UTC
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Post by Beam Me Up Scotty
Post by Leroy N. Soetoro
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/10/cleveland-sued-for-millions-after-
voters-force-city-to-drop-red-light-camera/?intcmp=trending
The termination of red light cameras in one major U.S. city has the
company behind them seeing red.
Xerox is suing the city of Cleveland for ending its three-year contract to
use the traffic cameras -- claiming the company is owed money because the
city backed out early, violating the terms of the agreement.
BIG BROTHER was watching and they found a way to force citizens to pay
for it, they give you a ticket so you pay for their citywide
surveillance system to watch your movements in a free country.
Maybe they'll use cheaper drones to target specific surveillance.
It's cheaper and more discrete. They can still track your movements.
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That's Karma
And meanwhile that cell phone in your pocket is reporting your every move. Gonna give that up?


Harry K

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